[BC] Continental 314R1

John Lyles jtml at losalamos.com
Sat May 10 01:40:53 CDT 2008


Steve

Could you be specific about which meters peg. Do you mean the plate 
voltage, the plate current, or the test meter (and if so, what 
function is it set on?). Also, when they peg, do they just go 
fullscale momentarily and then the transmitter kicks off, overload on 
power supply? Or does it trip the HV breaker too?

What do you mean by short period? One minute, one second?
How are you shutting off the bias PS? Do you remove the Bias fuse, or 
just turn off the LV (filament goes off also?).

If you mean it will not stay on high power even momentarily, it could 
very well be a component in the high voltage network, from the switch 
tube over to the PA tube cathodes. This includes the three big mica 
capacitors to chassis, in the PDM filter, the big diode CR1 that goes 
back to common or the other diode CR21 that goes to the -8500 volt 
supply. In high power, the resting duty factor (without modulation) 
is about 40%, so it gives about -3000 volts to the RF tube cathodes. 
This makes about a kW of RF power, as it should. In low power mode, 
the duty factor is reduced even more, to give a lower voltage. So, 
yes, in high power, the DC voltage out of the PDM filter is higher. 
Since it does try to work in low power,and the PDM switch tube is 
basically switching between zero and -8500 volts, that eliminates the 
first components in the low pass filter, as they would be breaking 
down in either power setting. You're probably correct on the diode 
too, as it would be getting full s!
  wing even
at lower power, from where it is in the circult. But on the output of 
the filter, the mica cap to ground (under the RF tube sockets) or 
anything around those tubes (including those two 3-500Z tubes 
themselves) is suspect to be failing at higher voltage. Even the 
filament transformer for the RF tubes, and the white wiring could be 
breakding down at higher voltage. If you had a hi potter, you could 
test components here. As you probably know, it ain't easy to 
troubleshoot a 314R1 when it is running, due to everything under the 
tube sockets being at very high voltage. Can't easily stick a scope 
probe in there when RF is on.


CR1 is there to provide a path for the counter EMF created in the 
first inductor in the PDM low pass filter. When the switch tube turns 
off that inductor current flows back through CR1. You can read a more 
detailed description of this portion of the circuit on my website: 
http://jtml.info/314R1/314R1.html,
click "How the Power Rock Modulates" at the bottom for a four page 
paper I wrote about this, the real meat of the Power Rock rigs.

I guess the switch tube, if it were sticking on or being driven on 
too much of the time (at high DF beyond what resting carrier would 
need), could be raising the HV to the PDM filter and the final tubes, 
if the switch mode car was broken. Usually the failure mode is zero 
output, not fully on like that.

Check the transistors (big TO3 package) on the Switchmod car with an 
ohmeter, that they are not shorted. The later MOSFET version is 
different, no more 0.6 V across base to emitter.

Normally, you cannot get PDM information out of the light pipe unless 
you cheat the carrier interlock ( I forget how. but clip leads work). 
You can look at the switchmod card output on a scope where it drives 
the light pipe transmitter, without HV on. It ain't easy to 
troubleshoot that card. Some folks have a spare card, and have 
Continental go over the bad one and retest it in their fixture.

Good luck, you will eventually find the culprit.

John Lyles
New Mexico


 > Message
 > Date: Fri, 9 May 2008 12:20:22 -0400
 > From: "Steve" <avcradio at roadrunner.com>
 > Subject: [BC] Continental 314R-1 Trouble
 >
 > Having some trouble with this transmitter, It will run for a short period of
 > time at low power, put it at high power and it trips off after all the
 > meters peg. I assumed the switch tube was going bad and I changed 
it, same problem. Bias voltage
 > was a little low so I replaced some of the caps that have been drying out








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