KXSF-LP got the NPT from KQED at 11:35:08 and from KCBS KFRC at 11:35:30. I think KQED got it from NPR and KCBS is a PEP. KQED won the race. The audio on both was acceptable. Lots of noise from too much compression but not distorted. Bill Ruck Curmudgeon San Francisco