[EAS] {Spam?} RE: IP transmission of CAP Authority to form StateEmerg. Comm. Committees
k7cr
k7cr at blarg.net
Fri Mar 4 10:09:39 CST 2011
Low band is not Broadband - Therefore, It's old, outdated, bad and useless.
PERFECT!
This means its spectrum that others can use that don't subscribe to today's line of thinking.
Clay
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Sklar
To: eas at radiolists.net
Cc: Clay Freinwald ; Richard Rudman ; Barry Mishkind
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: [EAS] {Spam?} RE: IP transmission of CAP Authority to form StateEmerg. Comm. Committees
We tried to use low-band VHF in Idaho for state relay years ago.
Do keep in mind that public safety gave these frequencies back when moving
to trunking systems. State of Idaho sank this plan. Said low-band VHF
was ancient technology !!!!
Allen Sklar
Tempe AZ USA
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Subject: Re: [EAS] {Spam?} RE: IP transmission of CAP Authority to form
StateEmerg. Comm. Committees
From: "k7cr" <k7cr at blarg.net>
Date: Thu, March 03, 2011 9:19 pm
To: "The EAS Forum - accurate & up-to-date EAS information"
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We use some Part 74 Frequencies for EAS in Washington State. The Local
Relay Network system in the Seattle area uses a RPU/UHF Pair. Reasons for
this were mainly it was next to impossible to get anyone in a
multi-jurisdictional area to step forward with some spectrum that everone
could use.
BTW = Our legacy/Analog SRN uses a VHF Law Enforcement Frequency. Same
frequency, statewide, feed via a statewide mountain-top microwave system.
Not sure what we will do with this system. It's OK for passing SAME and
voice messages, but not designed for extensive data transport. We have
looked at other frequencies, but there is no longer an money available. 6
meters would be a good place.
Clay
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From: "Richard Rudman" <rar01 at me.com>
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StateEmerg. Comm. Committees
> Hi, Ira and everyone -
>
> SBE and another group I am part of are in the process of sending letters
> to the sponsor of H R 607 to explain that the 450-451 and 455-456 UHF band
> segments are vital to broadcasters and should be excluded should the bill
> get enacted.
>
> Having said that, use of RPU frequencies is to me a broadcaster good deed
> that lets local government off the hook in a some operational areas. If
> you buy into the fact that warnings are a function of government, and that
> broadcasters are in reality conduits to the public for those EAS warnings,
> then government should be the source of EAS local relay radio channels.
>
> I am not familiar with the amount of 450 RPU activity in Keene, NH so you
> may have channels to spare. Other areas are not nearly so lucky.
>
> Thoughts on this, anyone?
>
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 3, 2011, at 7:36 PM, k7cr wrote:
>
>> Ira -
>>
>> Is that EAS backbone distributing Analog/SAME info ...or is it
>> distributing
>> CAP.
>> If it is analog - Is it going to be changed to handle digital/CAP info?
>>
>> Sure would like to hear more about your system and what your plans are
>> for
>> the
>> future.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Clay
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ira Wilner" <iwilner at monadnockradiogroup.com>
>> To: "'The EAS Forum - accurate & up-to-date EAS information'"
>> <eas at radiolists.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 1:12 PM
>> Subject: [EAS] {Spam?} RE: IP transmission of CAP Authority to form
>> StateEmerg. Comm. Committees
>>
>>
>>> Hi Richard,
>>>
>>> UHF, at least in New Hampshire, is part of the EAS backbone from NHSEM
>>> to
>>> the LP-1's. And our frequencies are in the BAS service band which the
>>> FCC
>>> wants to give away to others. So, that may go away!
>>>
>>> --Ira Wilner, CE Monadnock Radio Group, Keene NH.
>>>
>>> **************************************************************************
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: eas-bounces at radiolists.net [mailto:eas-bounces at radiolists.net] On
>>> Behalf Of Richard Rudman
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:47 PM
>>> To: The EAS Forum - accurate & up-to-date EAS information
>>> Subject: Re: [EAS] IP transmission of CAP Authority to form State Emerg.
>>> Comm. Committees
>>>
>>>
>>> And finally, one more plug for my idea that the FCC and FEMA ask local
>>> governments and states to allow CAP overrides for existing UHF low
>>> priority
>>> repeater systems to backup, reinforce and be last ditch ways for CAP-EAS
>>> messages to get to broadcast and cable entry points.
>>>
>>> IP delivery from public or private sources via the internet is not
>>> enough,
>>> and a fall back to "Classic EAS" is to me not a sound long term strategy
>>> for
>>> warnings that are supposed to save lives and property.
>>>
>>> Yea or Nay on that?
>>>
>>> Richard Rudman
>>>
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