[EAS] The Alaskan EAN

Fri Jan 28 15:16:02 CST 2011

Why would you be non-participating?  For the very reasons you mention, it is
very difficult to operate that way.  In order to be in compliance with the
rules, you have to have to be able to shut the station off almost
immediately in the event of an EAN.  That's kind of hard to do unless you
have an operator on duty 24/7.  If your stations were to be inspected, you'd
have some 'splainin to do, and would probably get fined.  If you
participate, you just let the box do its thing automatically, which takes no
effort at all.

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Bowen, Jonathan <jBowen at rejoice.org>wrote:

>  I have a question about the EAN message. My concern right now is that an
> EAN test or real event happens and I will never know. Is the EAS box suppose
> to take over and stay latched on till the EAT is hear? Also is there an
> audio feed send after the EAN from the originating station? We are
> non-participating and we are prepared to play the message and shutoff but my
> concern is the EAN will come and we will go back to normal audio just like a
> monthly test. I have no way to get an alert when one happens so I can come
> in and shutdown our network. BTW: we have a TFT 911(RBN/WPCS) and a
> Trilithic (KPCS)
>
> Thank you
>
> Jonathan Bowen
> RBN/WPCS Field Engineer
>
>
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> *From:* eas-bounces at radiolists.net [mailto:eas-bounces at radiolists.net] *On
> Behalf Of *Marcos O'Rourke
> *Sent:* Friday, January 28, 2011 12:36 PM
> *To:* The EAS Forum - accurate, up-to-date information on the EAS and its
> implementation
> *Subject:* Re: [EAS] The Alaskan EAN
>
>   Now that you explain the PEP and station EAS device, that makes sense
> that the station's EAS device would hear another EAN, etc...
>
> Thanks for the explanation and the info on the comments files with the FCC.
>
> --
> Marcos O'Rourke, CBRE, CBNT
> Engineering
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> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:31, <askenyon at cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Marcos,
>>
>> The reason you heard two EOMs is that there is a sperate PEP EAS device
>> installed at PEP stations idownstream of, and in addition to, the
>> station's EAS device.  The second EOM was generated by the station EAS
>> device which "heard" the EAN message as relayed through another
>> monitored EAS participant.
>>
>> Several comments were filed with the Commission regarding the disconnect
>> between how EAS devices actually work upon receipt of an EAN and the
>> proceedures set forth in the FCC EAS Handbook.  You are correct, the
>> real-world doesn't, and perhaps cannot, work in the same fashion as the
>> Handbook suggests. Perhaps this will be resolved in future updates.
>>
>> Al Kenyon
>> askenyon at cox.net
>> Alexandria, VA 22309
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Marcos O'Rourke wrote:
>>
>> > I had listened to KFQD's webcast and was able to listen to the test. I
>> > didn't hear an EAT but I did hear two sets of EOM tones.
>> >
>> > My question is: What is supposed to happen between the EOM of the EAN
>> > and
>> > the EAT? I've heard one explanation that there wouldn't be an EOM on a
>> > real
>> > EAN, it would just be the EAT tones again followed by EOM tones. (EAN
>> > Header
>> > -> Audio Message -> EAT Header -> EOM). The FCC EAS Handbook doesn't
>> > show
>> > that, but shows that the EAN and the EAT are separate independent EAS
>> > events. So are stations supposed to transmit the script on page 13
>> > (Step 8
>> > of National Activation Procedures)?
>> >
>> > --
>> > Marcos O'Rourke, CBRE, CBNT
>> > Engineering
>> > K-Wave Radio
>> > KWVE-FM 107.9, KWVE(AM) 660, KSDW 88.9 FM
>> >
>> > Chair
>> > Orange County EAS LECC
>> > Inland Empire EAS LECC
>> >
>> > P: 714-918-6207
>> > C: 714-793-8533
>> > Skype: marcosorourke
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 08:17, Barry Mishkind <barry at oldradio.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I've heard a few more reports from Alaska that some of the exercise
>> >> went
>> >> well,
>> >> especially for those stations and individuals that took it seriously
>> >> and
>> >> learned from last year's test.
>> >>
>> >> On the other hand, according to some reports, a few strange things
>> >> did happen. A wall wart died. An older EAS box failed to respond.
>> >> In some areas, apparently an RWT occurred during the EAN, and
>> >> one report said the EAT didn't happen, according to one of the
>> >> receivers.  The analysis is certainly going on in AK and DC.
>> >>
>> >>
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