[BC] EAS/CAP

towers at mre.com towers at mre.com
Sat Oct 3 20:56:35 CDT 2009


We're saying the same thing.  When it comes to demanding data intense
distribution, the system will crumble when combined with all the other
heightened amount of traffic. It's that simple.  Then comes the last mile
from the CO to station. One fallen pole or washed out pedestal and the
station or cluster is an island unless they have a RF ISP based close to
the CO.

MM


> Mike,
>
> The failure is CAP and DEAS are not live streams but e mail type HTML
> files with file attachment.  The products can't stream a live audio
> Presidential Alert. And the product is data intensive not suitable for FSK
> over an alalog channel.   Best CAP can do is send you an audio file, or
> direct you to a file server over internet that will attempt to stream
> packetize audio.  As the internet slows or fails your live stream may just
> no make it.  Also products have  the first message syndrome.  Once you
> send first alert all com channels clog with message traffic.  These
> products were developed by IT professions using what they understand.  The
> wireless analog path (i.e. radio, NOAA Wx radio) are holding to the legacy
> analog EAS as the working backbone as the survivable component.  Going
> forward it appears, in the wireless sector, we will have the legacy system
> and the CAP product running side-by-side for some time to come.  As folks
> say the train has left the station. Working or not!
>   FEMA is going forward with IPAWS as the concept.
>
> Check out the last week's 40 Page GAO report.  A grim beating on FEMA and
> a not so good report card on the nation's alert and warning system.  If
> 9/11 was the wake up call and 8 years have past it appears the progress
> made at best was inadequate. Like for your own copy of the GAO report
> http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d09834.pdf
> <http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d09834.pdf>
>
> May be its time for a re-boot to start over.
>
> Warren Shulz
> IL SECC Chair
>
>
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> From: broadcast-bounces at radiolists.net on behalf of towers at mre.com
> Sent: Sat 10/3/2009 2:32 PM
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> Subject: [BC] EAS/CAP
>
>
>
>
> This is the #1 reason why the presently proposed implimentation of CAP at
> the distribution point level will fail when it's needed the most.  The end
> user facilities and circuits are the weak link for these reasons.
>
> MM
>
>  > Dana:
>  >
>  > I have had Cable Internet, then DSL, then Cable at my home.  I have
>  > had DSL, Cable and T-1s at various other locations.
>  >
>  > There is NO WAY cable or DSL is four nines.  Not only that, but when
>  > it goes out, they are treated as what they are, consumer products.
>  > Verizon, Southwest Bell, Qwest, and AT&T (the ones I have had for DSL)
>  > really don't care one whit about the customer.  They will get to it
>  > when they get to it.  Same for cable, though I have only worked with
>  > three companies.  They just don't care.  You go into the queue with
>  > everyone else, and they will fix it when they feel like it.
>
>
>
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