[BC] CD vs LP

Mike McCarthy Towers at mre.com
Sun Sep 21 06:39:23 CDT 2008


Agreed.  I have a pair of Yamaha YPD-71 and an Ortofon MC 20 cartridge 
feeding mid-level Yamaha stuff into ADS710 and 810 drivers.  FWIW, I'm 
looking for a new super quiet and clean 250+ watt amp for them.  The 710's 
were my mains until I picked up a pair of 810's on e-bay.  Looking for a 
pair of 1590's to pair up with the HDTV system.  The 710's will make for a 
nice pair of surrounds.

On the REALLY good PRESSINGS (Telarc, Shefield, American Gramaphone, 
DECCA's classic label and a few others), the dynamic range exceeded 90dB 
and the recordings were spectacularly quiet if the disc was new, used very 
pure disc material, deeply grooved, and carefully cleaned. I have several 
of those discs which were only played partially.  They sounded spectacular 
then, and would likely now as well with today's even more quiet systems.

Fresh Aire's disc #1 Chocolate Fudge is still my top system low frequency 
test cut for both LP and CD.  (For LP tracking, it's universally agreed the 
original Telarc 1812 pressing is top challenger of any disc ever 
pressed.)  Between those two, I have blown many cartridges out of the grove 
and speakers of marginal systems into pieces.  Including a set of drivers 
on my 710's by accident.  Toccata on Fresh Aire II will challenge any 
tweeter bar none.  This is stuff recorded and mastered in the 70's.

Of the really popular bands, only Genesis really challenged systems total 
frequency response and capacity. The foot pedals used by Michael Rutherford 
(and Tony Banks) and under accentuated on the studio recordings are 
legendary in the concert realm.  Just as the WHO created ear splitting 
levels in concert, Genesis made it point to throw you back into your chair 
should you be in the first 20 rows.  Get a copy of Seconds Out (CD or LP) 
and you'll hear what I'm referring. I've personally experienced it.

Tangerine Dream traveled arguably the most quiet amp system I've heard to 
date.  Ear splitting loud, then nothing...even when next to 
speakers.  Amazing.  Just as good as their recordings.

MM



At 02:08 PM 9/20/2008 -0700, Larry Lamoray wrote
>If you ever heard any of Sheffield Records Direct To Disk LP's from the 
>late 70's you would be blown away. These were recorded direct to vinyl - 
>no tape. They degrade slightly as played repeatedly, but are still fantastic.
>
>I have two - One is still unopened, waiting for a very special occasion.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Young" <youngbob53 at msn.com>
>
>
>I don't really consider myself an audiophile but do have good stuff,
>old but good, Thorens, Marantz and double large Advents, and I can
>definitely hear a difference between CD's and LP's. Most LP's sound
>inviting clear, very real and warm to me while most CD's sound
>clinical, slightly harsh and cold. I can also listen to LP's all day
>but not cD's they are fatiguing to the ears,




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