[BC] Re:1 5/8 foam coax
Xmitters@aol.com
Xmitters
Mon Feb 19 15:00:57 CST 2007
In a message dated 2/19/07 2:15:11 PM Central Standard Time,
broadcast-request at radiolists.net writes:
<< LDF7-50A is rated by Andrew with a 315kW peak power maximum.? The power
max for 50kW carrier at 125% modulation is a little over 250kW; not a lot of
safety margin, but, at least in theory, it will take it, at least temporarily.?
The average power rating is 30.9kW according to Andrew catalog 38.? The next
size up (and the largest LDF cable) is 2-1/4; it has a continuous average rating
of 39.8kW and a peak of 425kW.? To get the safety you need and want you need
to go to air dieletric 3 inch, which has an average power rating of 81.9kW.
--
Lamar Owen
Director of Information Technology
Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute
1 PARI Drive
Rosman, NC? 28772
828-862-5554
www.pari.edu
>>
Lamar:
You have to remember that the 250 kW peak power that you mentioned is peak
Envelope Power, which is defined as the equivalent unmodulated power that has
the same voltage as the amplitude modulated carrier at peak crest of modulation.
Peak Power in the general sense (assuming sine wave voltage waveform and
unity power factor) is twice that of the average power. If I was doing this
calculation, I would double the PEP (253 kW) and arrive at the required peak power
handling ability of the feedline as 506 kW. Even at this figure, we have not
considered the required headroom for possible VSWR excursions for this system
yet. All of the 50 kW AMs that I have seen/worked on, either use three inch
rigid coax or four inch andrew air dielectric.
One poster here responding to this thread mentioned filling the line with
freon as a possible solution. I thought that the original post fas about foam
filled line. At any rate, would freon really help? I would be tempted to use SF6
(Sulfer Hexaflouride) assuming that there are no environmental or handling
complications.
It seems to me that it would be a lot easier to simply use the correct sized
line rather than taking the risk on smaller line? Feedline should last you 20
to 25 years or more so the amortization costs for the proper sized line would
not make it worth it going on the cheap.
Anyone here using 1 5/8 foam feedline for their 50 kW AM plant ? If so, you
have more guts than I have.
Jeff Glass, BSEE CSRE
Chief Engineer
WNIU WNIJ
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