[BC] Re: Predictions
R J Carpenter
rcarpen
Sun Jan 22 06:20:03 CST 2006
> From: "Williams, Chris \(Albuquerque\)" <chrisw at clearchannel.com>
>
> XM and Sirius still haven't made a profit, how long will that work.
> My prediction is not much longer.
XM used to say that they would be in positive cash flow with about 6
million subscribers. They have reached the 6 million, but not the
positive cash flow. The Big Bucks for MLB, etc, have added costs.
Say that they are clearing $6 per month per subscriber after
commissions, etc. The first-year income from each subscription seems
to be eaten up by "the cost of acquiring a customer": a subsidy for
the radio, adverts, and other costs.
After the first year that's $72 per year. With 6 million subscribers
that's $432 million per year. With 10 million it's $720 million per
year. Additional subscribers don't add much to their running costs.
It looks to me as though profits should increase rapidly beyond the
threshold - _IF_ they don't get into another bidding war with Sirius
for some kind of content..
Sirius seems to me to be at least a year behind on the road to
profits. Sirius went through a "pseudo-bankruptcy" almost 5 years ago
when they converted their debt to stock by issuing 100 times more
stock. That more or less wiped out the earier investors for a while.
Suppose you bought one share of XM and one of SIrius 5 years ago.
Your XM share would be worth 150% of what you payed for it. During the
5-year span XM started at around $18/share, went as low as around
$1.30, and is now $27.50 (222 million shares outstanding).
Your Sirius share would be worth 20% of what you paid for it - yes, a
loss of 80%. During the 5-year span Sirius stock started at around
$30 a share, went to about $0.37 cents after the new shares were
issued, and is now back to $6.30 (1.33 billion shares outstanding).
You could have made a killing if you had faith and bought when it was
way under a dollar a share.
Both were in the $60 to $80 region in the pre-launch euphoria.
As a comparison, if you bought General Electric stock 5 years ago you
would have lost 33% of your investment as of last Friday.
I don't own stock in or work for either XM or Sirius.
bob carpenter
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