[BC] Old Farts

[Cowboy]

On Saturday 02 December 2006 02:41 pm, Bernie Courtney wrote:
> HA!  The chances of any twenty-something working for free, let alone for
> free overnight, are about the same as hell freezing over.  This coming from
> one, so I'm allowed to speak in such ways about my peer group =)

 I'll respectfully disagree !!

 Some of the guys who've worked for me gladly, happily, eagerly work
 some of the overnight stuff, in fact BEG to do it, for the education.
 For "free" if you will.......
 Why ?
 Because hell WILL freeze over before there is another chance to get
 that education, paid or not.

> On Saturday 02 December 2006 04:22 pm, Bernie Courtney wrote:
> > That falls under slave labor in my book.  He should be getting paid if he's
> > editing in audition and loading things into prophet.  There is no reason in
> > the world why anybody should be working for FREE in any industry.  I'm not
> > counting internships in this discussion because with those the participants
> > in those end up with college credits which they would otherwise be paying
> > for.

 Education is expensive, no matter how one acquires it.
 Slave labor ? Methinks not.
 Education and experience, something he can put on a resume' ? YES.
 There is a quid-pro-quo either way.

 Not all compensation is paid in cash !

> > One would think you could instill a better sense of worth and self-respect
> > by insisting that he get get an entry level job that pays him even minimum
> > wage, rather then convince him that he should have to give his time away for
> > free.

 If one has the experience such that training is not necessary AT ALL, I might agree.
 Otherwise, the demonstration of attitude is worth more than one could be paid
 in cash dollars.

> > Honestly I have no idea why anybody his age would even still be 
> > considering this industry, considering how the jobs that actually pay decent
> > money in this field are so few and far between- though admittedly I was just
> > as young and stupid at his age though :)

 Careful, some of us who love this industry might take umbrage
 at such a devaluation of what it is that we do, we love, we live.

 If pure greed is your only motivation, then I take no exception to anything
 you've written in this thread, and you'll not likely work with me at any time.
 If, however, wisdom comes with years passing, things may change.
 You would do well to heed what Barry has penned !
 Tov sheim mishemen tov, my friend !

-- 
Cowboy