[BC] Old Farts

[Bernie Courtney]

That falls under slave labor in my book.  He should be getting paid if he's
editing in audition and loading things into prophet.  There is no reason in
the world why anybody should be working for FREE in any industry.  I'm not
counting internships in this discussion because with those the participants
in those end up with college credits which they would otherwise be paying
for.

One would think you could instill a better sense of worth and self-respect
by insisting that he get get an entry level job that pays him even minimum
wage, rather then convince him that he should have to give his time away for
free.  Honestly I have no idea why anybody his age would even still be
considering this industry, considering how the jobs that actually pay decent
money in this field are so few and far between- though admittedly I was just
as young and stupid at his age though :)

bernie

On 12/2/06, Kent Winrich <kwinrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Though they are few... My son (17) has been working at a cluster for free
> to
> learn how to run Adobe Audition, NexGen and the like.  He is already
> building a demo tape.
>
> Kids need to be PARENTED and led in a direction.  They need to be
> encouraged.  They need to be told why they need to do these "freebees".
> Though many are smart, and many are self centered if you clearly explain
> to
> them why and how to do it, most will make the effort.  These kids that
> will
> not do squat have not been parented.
>
> OK did I totally take this thread off topic now?
>
>
> On 12/2/06, Bernie Courtney <jerseyspikes at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > HA!  The chances of any twenty-something working for free, let alone for
> > free overnight, are about the same as hell freezing over.  This coming
> > from
> > one, so I'm allowed to speak in such ways about my peer group =)
> >
> > bernie
> >
> > On 12/2/06, gRAdy Moates <lists at loudandclean.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >     I think it is the responsibility of the old guys (like me
> > > now) to put out the effort to prove our value to the younger
> > > folks, so that they'll want to work all night for free to
> > > learn anything they can (just as I did, back in the day).
> > > Part of the formula of disrespect is a reverse age
> > > discrimination on the part of some of us older windbags.
> > > You gotta give to get respect.
> > >
> > > Grady
> > >
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