[BC] Re: Engineering school teachers

[RON DOT'O SR.]

Jeff,

I agree that there are lousy students and lousy teachers, but a 50% fail rate indicates a lousy teacher.  Part of an instructor's job is to motivate the students to learn, it's not all just lecturing.

Ron D
Salem, OR
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  Subject: [BC] Re: Engineering school teachers


  In a message dated 10/1/05 4:24:00 PM Central Daylight Time, 
  broadcast-request at radiolists.net<mailto:broadcast-request at radiolists.net> writes:

  << > Dunno about that...don't recall that the bottom 50% got weeded out the 
   > 1st semester, but I'd say that roughly half the class did not return for 
   > the 2nd year of classes.  I thought I came away with a pretty good 
   > education.
   
      It seems to me, he FAILED TO TEACH half of the people that signed up
   to learn from him/her.  No?
      I think the school would be BETTER if they had a teacher/s that could
   teach ALL of the students that signed up (and paid) to learn.  No?
   
      If I FAILED to fix half of everything that breaks at work,
   I wouldn't have lasted a month.
   -- 
       Ron
    >>

  Ron:


  I do not agree that the teacher failed to teach half the class. Many times, 
  students enter a major not knowing if they are cut out for engineering, in this 
  case. There is a high failure rate early on for a lot of reasons. This is 
  entirely different from the example you gave about fixing half of what breaks. 
  That difference is, you are in a line of work that you are cut out for and you 
  know that when you walk into a problem. This is not a fair comparison.

  There are people that have no business in the teaching profession. However, 
  this fact does not mean that when little Johnny fails ELE-101 that the teacher 
  failed to teach him. Maybe the teacher did fail, but then maybe little Johnny 
  did not apply himself. Engineering classes require a lot of work and effort 
  and there are many people out there that do not want to do what it takes.

  Jeff Glass, BSEE CSRE
  WNIU WNIJ

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