[EAS] Hawaii - mandatory evacuation - was there EAS triggered?

[Rich Parker]

One of the 'issues' is that existing FIPS are woefully inadequate in
terms of what they cover (a well known problem in coastal areas such
as SE Alaska, and as we have discussed with you locally - thank you
for being an advocate).  IF they could be more targeted, such as the
way NWS Polygons are envisioned to work, then I believe EAS would be a
more effective tool, and would be used more readily by EM folks. As
was pointed out, if the FIPS included the entire island, then of
course, an 'Emergency Evacuation' would have the potential to create
extreme chaos.  It is a fundamental flaw in the entire system - still
using the ancient stone axes of FIPS codes when a modern scalpel
(polygons) is available, and relatively easy to implement - all that
is lacking is the will and perhaps some $$$.

Rich Parker
Director of Engineering
CoastAlaska, Inc.
LP-1 for 5 areas of SE Alaska, with FIPS that match almost nothing
completely correctly......

On Tue, May 8, 2018 at 9:21 AM, Joel Curtis - WCM at NWS Juneau
<joel.curtis at noaa.gov> wrote:
> Comments:
>
> Those that do warning communications research generally agree that alerts
> should be disseminated over many (say all) channels based on a "confirmation"
> need by those who receive the first message.
>
> CFR 47 Part 11.31 allows for a "VOW" message for a "Volcano Warning". This
> is usually decided by the LECC as to what local alerts activate EAS. Often the
> EM is a member of the LECC.  It would be a useful discussion to see if this was
> implemented, or should be for the Big Island in the after-action activities.
>
> Cheers,
> Joel Curtis, NWS, Juneau AK
>
> On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 6:42 AM, Richard Rudman <rar01 at mac.com> wrote:
>>Maybe  it was not a factor in the Hawaii volcano incident, but I am concerned that there are still emergency managers who do not take to heart decades of serious warning research.
>
>>This research clearly tells the EM community to take advantage of all available warning systems to get the word out when life safety is at stake.
>
>>All warning system have strengths and weaknesses. Although broadcasting is an imperfect warning medium, it has redundancy and reliability features that internet dependent and cell phone infrastructure warning systems warnings do not have.
>
>>Using all available warning means reinforces the message people at risk need to receive to take to heart and act on protective actions to save their lives and property.
>
>>Richard Rudman
>
>>>On May 4, 2018, at 6:39 AM, Dave Kline <dkline at tvmail.unomaha.edu> wrote:
>
>>>Maybe they called a meeting of the "is this a real alert" committee and didn't get a quorum?
>
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