[EAS] "improving" EAS?

Dave Kline dkline at tvmail.unomaha.edu
Fri Jul 13 13:59:39 CDT 2018


You raise some good points Ed.
Defining fake or erroneous vs a missed outcome would make a lot of sense.
Even lumping fake and erroneous into the same group may be going to far.
But it would be a step in the right direction.

Evil intent and mistakes are two entirely different matters.
Obviously generating a Zombie Apocalypse has an ill-intentioned component that is not present when sending a missile alert that was thought to be real at the time it was issued. True, a missile alert may have much more of an impact, but if it was well-intended it should stand separately from an something designed to generate wide-spread panic or garner attention.

It seems though, that there should already something in place to deal with those who intentionally issue fake alerts.
I have no problem with reporting an erroneous alert that was sent by mistake, but I think fake and erroneous should be considered separately from each other in that reporting process.

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Dave Kline 
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On Jul 13, 2018, at 12:21 PM, Ed Czarnecki wrote:

>OK, I think that's stretching it a bit, but do I see your point.  The
>proposed rulemaking asks for additional comment on whether there should be a
>reporting process on false EAS alerts.  The context in this R&O, and the
>preceding Notice is for a fake or erroneous alert - like Bobby Bones,
>zombies, and that sort of thing.  This wouldn't seem to cover a bona fide
>alert for circumstances that don't materialize.  Hawaii is a new scenario
>though - it was bona fide when issued (i.e. the originating gov't employee
>thought it was real when issued), but shown to be in error some time after
>issuance.

>So, yeah, this request for Comment deserves a good deal of input from all of
>is.  And perhaps part of the Comments to the FCC is that they should define
>terms explicitly.  What is a "false alert" that would trigger a reporting
>requirement.  And reporting after 24 hours of discovery - that's 24 hours
>from the station's discovery, not the audience or any other entity?  And is
>24 hours reasonable (that could cut both ways)?

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>From: EAS [mailto:eas-bounces at radiolists.net] On Behalf Of Steve Schoon

>Furthermore, if the NWS issues a SVR claiming 60+ MPH winds and damaging
>hail for your community and it doesn't come to pass, it can effectively be
>called a FALSE ALERT!  Every attorney in every courtroom in the country will
>argue it as such.
>What about a radar indicated TOR that remained only radar indicated, no
>evidence of a touchdown?  By definition, it's a funnel cloud until or unless

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