[EAS] Earthquakes on EAS?

Thu Feb 24 10:49:24 CST 2011

Thanks for your thoughts on the quake code, Don.

If and when it is used I can see it being a tool for realistic reassurance that the area's emergency management is up and running, doing damage assessment, and what I call context-sensitive reminders to people at risk. For instance, at 4:30 in the morning the first CAP message also might say, "prepare for aftershocks, stay on your bed, and  stay tuned to local news". 

I look to Washington as a leading role model of what other states without a clear path to CAP should seriously consider.

You, Clay and the rest of your team have come up with some CAP solutions that will serve us all well.

Please keep up the good work!

Richard

On Feb 24, 2011, at 8:27 AM, Miller, Don (EMD) wrote:

> WA plans to use the earthquake code after an earthquake (until the science of prediction is proven). We actually requested the code be added several years ago. 
> Our use will be to inform the public to be aware of possible aftershocks and remind them to "drop, cover and hold" if they are still in a building, and not call 911 unless aid is needed. This was used during our Nisqually 6.8 earthquake and our 911 centers telephone lines went silent.....
> 
> This discussion is for an automatic system using monitors to activate doors, etc and would not need to rely on EAS relaying by broadcasters. 
> A good idea but my concern is the cost issue during these austere budget times.  CAP alone is going to cost all of us and is WA priority at this point. 
> 
> Don Miller
> KE7UUK
> Telecommunications and Warning Systems Manager
> IT Telecommunications Washington Military Department
> Camp Murray Building 20
> Tacoma, WA 98430-5120
> (253) 512-7035 (W)
> (253) 405-9446 (C)
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: eas-bounces at radiolists.net [mailto:eas-bounces at radiolists.net] On Behalf Of JGabb at aol.com
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:17 AM
> To: eas at radiolists.net
> Subject: Re: [EAS] Earthquakes on EAS?
> 
> All of this is interesting but in it's developmental stage. They are saying 
> 15 to 20 seconds before the quake. Could we activate the EAS system in 15 
> secs?  By the time it gets down the daisy chain the quake will have 
> happened! There is  no question that progress is being made but EAS with or without 
> CAP cannot be of  any assistance with such short notice. That doesn't mean 
> that someday,  hopefully, this type of alert will give us more time to alert 
> people.
> 
> Jim Gabbert
> California Chair SECC
> 
> 
> In a message dated 2/23/2011 11:03:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
> lkiesow at kplu.org writes:
> 
> It's a  for-profit company.  They'll be happy to 
> share their warnings with  anyone who pays them 
> $$$ for the service.  Unless some government  
> agency has deep pockets, public warning isn't 
> going to happen from  their system.  Of course, if 
> the science holds up over time, there is  no 
> reason that government could not independently 
> build on the idea  for public warning.  I vaguely 
> recall that Japan is doing this, and  they use the 
> network to shut off hazardous utilities in advance of  damage.
> 
> 
> At 09:17 PM 2/23/2011, you wrote:
>> Questions&shy;how  do you think we’re going to 
>> receive these messages? What does  “QuakeGuard” 
>> envision as the distribution system for these  
>> alerts? Would they provide the input to the CAP 
>> server? Is it  realistic to expect today’s EAS to 
>> push out these warnings in 15  minutes? Can 
>> broadcasters do that? We do have an Event Code  
>> for earthquakes&shy;should it be a mandatory code? 
>> Should that  decision be made at the state level 
>> or at the federal level? Will  state plans have 
>> to be re-written again to accommodate the  
>> earthquake code? California, Alaska, Nevada and 
>> Hawaii are all  aware of earthquake dangers but 
>> no state is immune&shy;is it more  important to 
>> install these warning systems in states like New  
>> York and Missouri where quakes are rare or in 
>> the West where  quakes are  common?
>> 
>> Adrienne
>> 
>> <http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/23/quake-early-warning-reality-cali
> fornia/>http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/02/23/quake-early-warning-realit
> y-california/
>> 
>> 
>> Earthquake  Early Warning System a Reality in California
>> 
>> By Adam  Housley
>> 
>> Published February 23, 2011 | FoxNews.com
>> What  if you could be alerted before the only 
>> natural disaster that offers  no warning actually 
>> hits? Even if the alert came just seconds  sooner?
>> 
>> In California's Coachella Valley around Palm  
>> Springs, a state-of-the-art, first-in-the-world 
>> earthquake  early warning system in now installed 
>> and operational. Twelve  locations are now in 
>> place with 120 sites planned, all meant to  
>> detect an earthquake and give people a chance to 
>> get under a  table, or in the case of a fire 
>> station, get the engines outside of  the building.
>> 
>> Created by a Silicon Valley startup, QuakeGuard  
>> sensors are designed to detect the initial, or 
>> "P" energy  waves given off by every quake, even 
>> though  it's only the later,  or "S" waves that 
>> do all the damage. The time in-between the two  
>> waves varies depending on the proximity to the 
>> epicenter and  as the first sensor closest to the 
>> quake goes off, it can offer  advance notice  -- 
>> from a few seconds to a full minute-- to other  locations farther away.
>> 
> 
> 
> Lowell Kiesow, Chief Engineer
> KPLU 88.5,  KVIX 89.3, KPLI 90.1
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