[BC] AM Stereo On A Mono Radio-FM Loudness
RADIO DOCTOR
lylehenry at fastmail.fm
Fri Oct 5 11:27:53 CDT 2007
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007, Cowboy wrote:
>> And he built a box that could measure according what to the rules
>> were and he has a letter (I have a copy) from the FCC approving what
>> he built the ModMinder to do. The FCC has never required that no
>> instaneous peaks exceed 100%. They defined a peak as 10 cycles of a
>> 10 kHz sinewave right in the rules. One millsecond. It is 'better'
>> to ignore peaks that they don't recoginize as peaks if one wants to
>> be as loud as possible, yet legal. And such weighting is essential
>> when transmitting high-speed digital SCAs.
>
> Here's my problem with this approach. The rules always had the
> qualifier "peaks of frequent recurrence" which always seemed
> reasonable, and more than adequate to me. Now, we need to know how
> many picoseconds a peak is, for it to be a peak, or not a peak, and if
> a peak overlaps the window by a picosecond, does it still count/not
> count ? And, it sorta depends on what the meaning of "is" is.
>
> It's a bad thing ( IMHO ) to try and codify good judgment.
Seems that 'peaks of frequent recurrence' which sounds reasonable is
exactly a codification of judgment. :)
As referenced above, the FCC said a peak was 1 millisecond; less than
that, it doesn't count. The monitors that have peak-weighting ability
use 900 microseconds for a 10% safty margin.
So we really have an absolute -- peaks that we know don't have
to be counted. And the judgment call beyond that as to 'peaks of
frequent recurrence'.
I fail to see why you would want a tighter absolute than was ever in the
FCC rules.
The calibration of a scope, while used in the past by FCC roving trucks,
is certainly not a precision way of determining compliance with their
own definition of a peak, especially when a station is running more than
mono programming. A ModMinder with it's traceable calibration is a
better way of dealing with the rule's definition. Then apply the
judgmental part after that.
No one seems to know what 'peaks of frequent recurrence' means, but I
read somewhere a long time ago (and I wish I could find it) that up to 5
weighted peaks within 5 milliseconds would be OK. That is the reason
that some peak weighted monitors like the ModMinder and The Wizard offer
up to 45 cycle (4.5 millisecond) weighting while still providing a 10%
safety margin.
The reason I talk about peak weighting so much is that I saw how
important an issue it is while installing the MSN Direct subcarriers for
Microsoft at dozens of stations in 2003-4. For years many stations went
by the conventional (but incorrect) wisdom that if they added a 10% SCA,
they had to turn down the main channel to 95%. Two SCAs at 10% each or
a 20% SCA, and they turned down the main channel to 90%. They were
cheating themselves.
In reality, even analog SCAs did not require that much reduction, and
high-speed digital SCAs required little, if any, reduction, IF ONE
USED A PEAK-WEIGHTED MONITOR. All for the simple reason that the more
frequencies present in the composite signal, the narrower the peaks
became and one could enjoy the FCC definition of what a peak really is.
Many of these narrow peaks are narrower than 1 millisecond, so they
don't count.
With a peak-weighted monitor, there is essentially no benefit if running
mono. Add pilot and L-R and there's a small benefit. Add analog SCAs
and the benefit increases. Finally, with high-speed digital
subcarriers, the effect of weighting is most noticeable.
There is an important assumption in this discussion, that the main
channel audio is tightly peak-controlled in the first place. A
peak-weighted monitor is not a proper or effective solution for
composite STL or exciter overshoot.
Again, I offer the paper I recently wrote regarding this issue. It is
specific to FMeXtra, but is broadly relevant.
...Lyle, FMeXtra evangelist, in Los Angeles, CA Cell: 213-880-4690
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