[BC] Frontline Wireless emergency network

Phil Alexander dynotherm
Mon Mar 5 15:04:44 CST 2007


On 5 Mar 2007 at 14:18, Robert Meuser wrote:

> 
> Having lived in NYC during 9/11 and a few blackouts I clearly can see 
> what works and what does not.  I have long ago lost faith in traditional 
> engineering. It delivers too little too late. The design of the World 
> Trade center speaks to that alone. 

What was wrong with the design? Execution and governmental interference
that prevented design execution had much more to do with failure. Originally,
the buildings were designed to take a hit by fully fuelled 707-323, the
long range version that took off with >250,000 lbs. of Jet A. That
was the biggest thing in the air at the time, and the planes that hit
were only somewhat bigger. If the beams had been encased in asbestos
cement all the way to the top, the possibility of catastrophic structural
failure would have been greatly diminished.

> I would really prefer the government 
> to throw a few million dollars at what a private company might spend 
> $100K or less based on cost benefit analysis. 

You mean like the USACE did in NOLA? Yeah, that was government in action.

> That is how basically our 
> military works and we can flatten the entire civilized world whenever we 
> wish.

Actually, BTTT-DW, (Been There Tried That - Didn't Work) we can't, and 
that is the realpolitik of the world today.

However, you avoided my question: What has confidence in government to 
do with building radio stations? How does that work?


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Phil Alexander, CSRE, AMD
Broadcast Engineering Services and Technology 
(a Div. of Advanced Parts Corporation) 
Ph. (317) 335-2065   FAX (317) 335-9037


 
> Phil Alexander wrote:
> 
> >Don't follow your "logic" of what confidence in government has
> >to do with building radio stations.
> >
> >Cost/benefit analysis is always an engineering consideration.
> >Obviously, if a day off air costs ten times as much in lost
> >revenue as a genset and large fuel supply, you put in the
> >genset.
> >
> >Just as obviously, if you let government do something better
> >done by private enterprise, it will be late, probably wrong
> >and cost far more than the result justifies.
> >
> >I happen to believe the proper role of government is doing
> >those thing the people can't do better for themselves, like
> >national defense, maintaining an orderly flow of commerce
> >etc.
> >
> >---------------------------------------------
> >Phil Alexander, CSRE, AMD
> >Broadcast Engineering Services and Technology 
> >(a Div. of Advanced Parts Corporation) 
> >Ph. (317) 335-2065   FAX (317) 335-9037
> >
> >
> >On 5 Mar 2007 at 11:48, Robert Meuser wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Sorry
> >>
> >>I am a cost is no object kind of guy. I have had the good fortune to 
> >>build radio stations that way and will not give in to cost cutters. 
> >>People laughed when we put in standby power that had a 10day supply of 
> >>fuel  to run all the TXs in the building at the same time until the 
> >>lights went out for an extended period of time. Then that  turned into 
> >>thank you. You can either do the short cut engineering approach or do 
> >>the damn the torpedoes approach and cover yourself for everything. I 
> >>luckily have not had to work for cheapskates. I inherited stations that 
> >>took the same approach, in both cases no one looked backwards.
> >>
> >>I have turned down jobs offered by those who do not want to pay for 
> >>first class plus operation.
> >>
> >>R
> >>
> >>Phil Alexander wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>Confidence in government? Wake up and look around. The last time
> >>>government did anything right you were a kid in short pants
> >>>at the very least.
> >>>
> >>>If done by "government" it gets done by **private** contractors
> >>>who rake a large chunk of change off the top. Why do you think
> >>>it costs 10 to 100 times as much for "government" to do it?
> >>>
> >>>Government and a few utilities are the only entities left who
> >>>don't feel the discipline of the marketplace in our society.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >
> >
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