[BC] Harris Corp. Seeks Cuts in Transmitter Business
Robert Meuser
Robertm
Sun Feb 4 13:13:17 CST 2007
Then there are those bypass caps on the FM20 driver socket :-)
R
Jeff Allen wrote:
>Been there done, that. Replaced the controller board and caps bolted to the
>sides. Previous engineer had a Gates one in pieces that I put back
>together. Only thing I haven't done on the Gates 5/1 is pull out any of the
>transformers. It's still easier to work on than the old tube transmitters.
>I used to take care of an old RCA FM TX that I had to take yoga classes just
>to change out the IPA tube sockets.
>
>JAllen
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert Meuser" <Robertm at broadcast.net>
>To: "Broadcasters' Mailing List" <broadcast at radiolists.net>
>Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:42 AM
>Subject: Re: [BC] Harris Corp. Seeks Cuts in Transmitter Business
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>>get down around the controller and all the other stuff bolted to the
>>sides and bottom of the case. The PA boards and tuning coils are easy.
>>
>>R
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>>Jeff Allen wrote:
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>>>I've taken a Gates 5 and Gates 1 apart (PA boards to tuning coils) and
>>>
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>back
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>>>together again, didn't need a contortionist. I've always liked the
>>>Harris/Gates gear.
>>>
>>>J Allen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Robert Meuser" <Robertm at broadcast.net>
>>>To: "Broadcasters' Mailing List" <broadcast at radiolists.net>
>>>Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 10:55 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [BC] Harris Corp. Seeks Cuts in Transmitter Business
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>>>>No argument. I am merely repeating what I was taught as a kid by some
>>>>very accomplished engineers. I will, however, stand by my comments
>>>>regarding Gates 1 2.5 and 5. As long as they work, great. When they
>>>>quit, I hope you have a contortionist on staff to do the repairs.
>>>>Regarding catalogs as a kid I got every Collins, Gates, Continental and
>>>>RCA catalogs publish up until they longer existed. Maybe it was your
>>>>regional guy. At one time Gates (or was it Harris) had a street level
>>>>store front in NYC.
>>>>
>>>>R
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Douglas B. Pritchett wrote:
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>>>>>You don't have anything else to do on a Sunday morning but start a
>>>>>
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>>>fight?
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>>>>>Robert Meuser wrote:
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>>>>>>Maybe I am spoiled, but I never had to work on original Gates gear. I
>>>>>>was taught that it was inferior and real broadcasters used Collins or
>>>>>>if high power they used Continental or they used RCA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>You expect a civil response to that? Real broadcasters use what they
>>>>>can afford and what's available. The Gates equipment was solid,
>>>>>reliable, affordable, but not pretty. And from past experience, trying
>>>>>to get someone from Collins to even ship you a catalog was a PIA. I'll
>>>>>explain at the end.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>That being said, my real world observations pretty much agreed with
>>>>>>what I was taught. When the Gates One came out, my impression was it
>>>>>>was named that way because it was a cheap transmitter that adhered to
>>>>>>the old Quincy Tin Works standard that Harris after many years had
>>>>>>purged from their newer gear.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>Our station (what you would not call real broadcasters) uses a Gates
>>>>>One and it's been reliable and trouble-free.
>>>>>
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>>>>>>I have had to work on those and they certainly are not up to current
>>>>>>Harris standards.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>Don't take this the wrong way Robert, but with that kind of attitude,
>>>>>I would not want you working on my gear.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>Then there are a number of other brands that could not meet the
>>>>>>Quincy Tin Works standard on a good day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Robert, dude, you've got to work on this attitude of yours.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>>Then there is Nautel that learned well from Continental in their
>>>>>>glory days.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>Good companies, both. But, when we needed a transmitter on a tight
>>>>>time line, Nautel was very gracious, but could not make our deadline.
>>>>>BE could, but wanted to ding us for the rush. Harris had one ready and
>>>>>we drove to Quincy, drove home, and it worked right outta da box.
>>>>>
>>>>>About Collins. In the early 70's as a student, I was tasked with
>>>>>putting together the action plan for upgrading our carrier current AM
>>>>>and Class D FM facilities. With a CP in hand for 3kw for the FM, I
>>>>>called Collins and was told to write for a catalog. I did, on
>>>>>station/University letterhead. I received a terse reply from the
>>>>>Collins rep stating ( and I've kept the letter ) "since I don't see
>>>>>your name in the Broadcasting Yearbook as a principal of the station,
>>>>>and since I don't have any record of your so-called construction
>>>>>permit, we can not send you a catalog. Douglas, you are probably a
>>>>>student looking for an easy way to complete your homework assignment.
>>>>>As you continue with your education, you will learn that companies can
>>>>>not waste money sending expensive equipment to every broadcasting
>>>>>student at you college. Best wishes.............."
>>>>>Harris sent a catalog, as did every other manufacturer. Needless to
>>>>>say, the university spent their $255,000 budget elsewhere. I never
>>>>>specified Collins anywhere I went. And yes, I had the chance many
>>>>>
>>>>>
>times.
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>>>>>Robert, you are entitled to your opinion about Gates being garbage.
>>>>>I'll stick with my opinion that Collins we're elitist snobs, and I'm
>>>>>not for a moment saying you are.
>>>>>Happy Sunday.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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