[BC] Re: Copper program Loops

ACN acn
Fri Apr 6 22:07:20 CDT 2007


Hi Steve.   Yes, I remember the 1250 as a very young kid.   I worked some 
summers there and it was owned by the First Presbyterian Church but was 
operated as a regular commercial station.

The church build the West Seattle transmitter site.   KBLE 1050 is now 
diplexed on that tower.

It was originally a daytimer because of KWSC in Pullman on 1250.  I think at 
one time that were only on the air Sundays and Thursday nights from 7pm.

For years, KWSC did not go on the air on Sundays and signed off Thursday at 
7pm.

When the station was black owned, they pushed the University into allowing 
them the night directional to protect KWSC.

KWSC got Sunday and Thursday night out of the deal.

The Kirkland site was the original Kirkland daytime on 1460, as I recall.

It had to protect daytime 1450 in Puyallup and I think Mount Vernon on 1470?

Tom



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Newman" <shnewman at alaweb.com>
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Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [BC] Re: Copper program Loops


> Hi Tom..
>
> Well, this was in 1981-1982 (before I went to KING-FM to do Mornings as 
> Steve Hillard. If you were there you might remember me). The station's 
> calls at that time were KFXX (The Fox) at 1250. I believe it's still an 
> ABC/Disney station. We had a 5kw Non-D in West Seattle and a night site 
> which was a 4 tower (parallelogram) array in Kirkland, also 5Kw. (designed 
> by Hatfield & Dawson)
>
> BTW, the "big" station I mention in my message is KJR.
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "ACN" <acn at acn.cc>
> To: "Broadcasters' Mailing List" <broadcast at radiolists.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 7:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [BC] Re: Copper program Loops
>
>
>> Steve. what station in Seattle?
>>
>> Tom
>> ACN
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Steve Newman" <shnewman at alaweb.com>
>> To: "Broadcasters' Mailing List" <broadcast at radiolists.net>
>> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [BC] Re: Copper program Loops
>>
>>
>>> GOOD! Give me a good analog solution any day Bob. Digital is just not 
>>> forgiving. I guess, by default, I'm part of your club now. :)
>>> ....and proud of it. In a post a few months ago I spoke about the 
>>> station I put together with a friend. We had NO iron until we hit the 
>>> 111-C. The chief at the "big" station in town wondered why we were the 
>>> best sounding AM station in Seattle. I told him he how I setup the 
>>> station and that he was an iron factory BUT don't worry about the 111-C. 
>>> It's invisible. Amazing transformer.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Steve Newman
>>> Steve Walker Productions
>>> Opp, Alabama
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jeff, there's nothing "old fart" about this approach either. No need to 
>>>> be
>>>> paranoid. Just because it isn't a digital solution doesn't mean it 
>>>> won't
>>>> work! When I left WLTW in 1997 they were still using equalized loops to 
>>>> the
>>>> Empire State Building and were driven by BDI line drivers putting +10 
>>>> dBm on
>>>> the lines. These amps were capable of +30 dBm so there was still 20 dB 
>>>> of
>>>> headroom. We were able to achieve 90 dB of dynamic range from the 
>>>> console
>>>> right to the input of the processor at the transmitter site. Come to 
>>>> think
>>>> of it, on my last visit down there about six months ago I think I saw 
>>>> that
>>>> chassis in the rack!
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the long winded post but this is a topic that I spent a lot 
>>>> of
>>>> time on when I was an "old fart" station engineer! Happy Holiday!
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Bob Tarsio
>>>> President
>>>
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