[BC] What is

Sat Jan 21 16:23:41 CST 2006

My point exactly, so why don't you(and for that fact all of us) write the fcc or educate consumers?  IBOC is what the FCC gave us. And from what I know from consumers they want us to number HD2 like it is another band. The general public is behind us but we have to educate to enable them to let the FCC know what they want, not what increases spectrum revenue in Washington.

I don't think you can compare LP's truly linear format to Cd's sample based system. Apples and Oranges. I think LP's on a good turntable still sound better then cd's which are digitally processed so the VU meters on my car stereo stay on. No dynamic range just a wall of sound. Some concerts are also starting to sound like this too. What ever happened to using your own eq to make a recoring sound to your liking.

CW

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From: broadcast-bounces at radiolists.net on behalf of DANA PUOPOLO
Sent: Sat 1/21/2006 1:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [BC] What is

Kent,

Despite what you might believe, less is NOT more, and there's no way in HELL
that 48 Kbit audio can even APPROACH 'cd' (or even analog LP) quality. 

I simply don't want to go BACKWARDS, which is where I believe we're going. A
new radio system should sound BETTER then the one it replaces, not merely 'as
good' or 'slightly worse'. Otherwise, why bother replacing what you have?

Plus, IBOC is unique in another way. Since the beginning of radio, any
improvement (stereo, AM stereo, etc.) affected only YOUR station. IBOC does
NOT (adversely) affect YOUR station at all! Instead, it trashes YOUR
NEIGHBOR'S STATION!!

This is not only immoral, but it actually runs COUNTER to the FCC's charter
(In case you don't know, the FCC came into being to REDUCE interference
between radio stations, not INCREASE it!).

Is radio so desperate (or greedy, or both) that it has to run out and  adopt
what most engineers know is an inferior system? And PLEASE DON'T use the
mantra: "That's what they gave us". THEY (the FCC) also 'gave' us CBS color
television, yet I don't see many TV sets with color wheels spinning in front
of them. Do you?

Digital radio should be going into ANOTHER BAND, especially since there's
PLENTY of decent spectrum being made available NOW by the sunsetting of analog
TV. There's simply NO REASON for IBOC at all!

AM digital radio COULD go into the current vacant 1700 - 1800 kHz spectrum
WITHOUT a single policy being changed. I mentioned this band last week and I
don't think ONE person even picked up on it. Also, digital radio could also go
below 530 kHz, the 26 mHz RPU band, and a bunch of other places.

Why have none of these places even been considered? Why isn't the SBE (you
know, the organization that's suppositely out there to INCREASE the stature of
broadcast engineers) screaming bloody murder that engineers were almost 100%
excluded from IBOC/digital radio discussions?

I think we all know the answers to this: $$$$$$$!!!!

But money isn't everything, thank God!

-D

PS: Why don't you read this weeks RadioWorld online - it has an enlightening
interview with Ed De La Hunt.  Maybe the President of the SBE should read it
too! After all, it IS in his magazine!

-D

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Received: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 10:05:09 AM PST
From: "Kent Winrich, K9EZ" <kwinrich at gmail.com>
To: "Broadcasters' Mailing List" <broadcast at radiolists.net>
Subject: [BC] What is "better?" HOW do we get there?

DANA PUOPOLO wrote:

>Look, if you all believe that 48K digital stereo is 'progress' - and a radio
>system you can happily live with for the next 30-40 years, then more power
to
>you!
>
>I simply believe that we deserve better - that's all!
>
>-D
>

You say that we deserve better.  OK let us know HOW we make it better.
What do we need to do to make a bigger improvement.  And dont just
say increase the bandwidth.  If we could we would.  Again arm chair
quarterbacking is the EASY way.

I have asked you once before without an answer (perhaps I missed the
answer, that is possible with the hours I have been keeping).  Have
you listened to HD Radio?  Have you done an implementation of HD Radio?

You can spec me to death if you want Dana.  There is a difference
between what I THINK I should hear with that 48k and what is truly
coming out to me ears.  I am sure that Bob Orban can talk in more
detail about Psycho acoustics than I can.
Also why you think that we would need to hold onto this for 30-40
years is beyond me.  Let me introduce you to something called
SOFTWARE UPGRADES.  The transmission method would have no real need
to change, but it is the CODEC that could change.  Correct me if I am
wrong.  Am I missing something?

Though I have not dug into the CODEC for HD, my understanding is that
it is upgradeable.  Even the new Radiososophy radio has the ability
to upgrade the CODEC.

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