[BC] Looks like we got snookered!

Robert Meuser Robertm
Tue Jan 3 13:05:11 CST 2006


Your XM likely has a nearby terrestrial fill. Your WIFI is going the 500 feet 
you claim not 50 miles. Cordless is is a similar situation.   Now take a 
centrally situated transmitter and duplicate FM over more than 50 miles, in the 
real world it does not work. Eureka has not really done well except when used in 
abandoned VHF TV channels.

R

DANA PUOPOLO wrote:
> Rob:
> 
> I have a cell phone that's PLENTY sensitive! My XM radio works in the 2 gHz
> band, cost me 25 bucks and is plenty sensitive too. Works in the house without
> the antenna even being near a window!
> 
> Wifi works in the 2 gHz band, is dirt cheap and plenty sensitive. My router
> puts out 28 Mw and I can use my computer over 500 feet away.
> My router cost 5 bucks after rebates. 
> 
> My 2 gHz and 5 Ghz cordless phones cost nothing and have great range. 
> 
> Seems to me that gAS fets are dirt cheap these days.....
> 
> -D
> 
>  
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> Received: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 08:36:21 AM PST
> From: Robert Meuser <Robertm at broadcast.net>
> To: Broadcast Radio Mailing List <broadcast at radiolists.net>
> Subject: Re: [BC] Looks like we got snookered!
> 
> Mike:
> 
> The part Dana missed is that part of the loooong roll out in Canada is that
> they 
> can not get L band radios that are sensitive enough. There is a lot of
> blockage 
> in those bands.  Cellular combats thats by having many local cells. Eureka
> could 
> also have a cellular structure, but is was not built out that way in Canada.
> 
> R
> 
> Mike McCarthy wrote:
> 
>>Dana....
>>
>>The broadcasters, particularly the big guns didn't want the new spectrum 
>>which would in effect give the peanut whistles equal footing in audio 
>>quality and improved coverage. They STILL DON'T EITHER. This is long 
>>before the last ownership dereg. took place and CC, et al. were able to 
>>go on a buying spree. That and the industry and technology were not 
>>prepared for a new band.  Things change....over 10 years.
>>
>>Who could have imaged wireless broadband and the myriad of new things 
>>which now requires spectrum for short distance communications needing as 
>>much as they do now.
>>
>>Yes, we got Ibiquity and I agree it's a neutered system which has great 
>>harm potential to the AM band. But after seeing the LONG roll outs in 
>>Britain and Canada, we're rolling out Ibiquity a whole lot faster here.
>>
>>MM
>>
>>At 05:58 AM 1/3/2006 -0800, DANA PUOPOLO wrote
>>
>>
>>>Check this out:
>>>
>>>http://www.upi.com/Hi-Tech/view.php?StoryID=20051230-083814-1294r
>>>
>>>If I recall, a slice of this spectrum was the VERY place where Eureka 
>>>DAB was
>>>to have gone. Hmmm...I'm wondering why the space wasn't available when
>>>broadcasters wanted it (Seems the Pentagon needed it to test missles), 
>>>but
>>>when the cellular industry wants it: *POOF!!* there it is!
>>>
>>>Of did Ibiquity, the NAB and the "status quo" broadcasters get their 
>>>way A la'
>>>lobbying?
>>>
>>>I find it interesting that the ONLY people who GET DIGITAL RADIO SLOTS 
>>>are the
>>>ones that already own analog ones. Wasn't the original purpose of DAB to:
>>>"Level the playing field"? I guess having a few consolidators owning 
>>>most of
>>>the good stations is level enough for the FCC and Congress.
>>>
>>>Well, it looks like the broadcasters (and their short term greed) just 
>>>shot
>>>themselves in the foot - AGAIN!
>>>
>>>See, one of the things the cellular industry is going to DO with this new
>>>spectrum is deliver CONTENT (remember that word in earlier 
>>>discussions?) to
>>>the public.  Guess who's going to get short shrift as a result?
>>>
>>>The Broadcasters......
>>>
>>>I learned a moral a long time ago. It said: "Be careful of what you 
>>>wish for,
>>>because it might come true". The Consolidators and NAB wished for 
>>>Ibiquity and
>>>that's EXACTLY what they got - a crappy, neutered DAB system - but the
>>>cellular industry gets the last laugh here, because THEY got (the) 45 
>>>mHz of
>>>spectrum that the consolidators and NAB gave up - to compete against 
>>>them!
>>>
>>>Along with another 45 Mhz in the 2.1 gig band....
>>>
>>>-D
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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