[BC] Sangean HD component tuner & HDradio
WFIFeng@aol.com
WFIFeng
Wed Dec 20 21:38:08 CST 2006
In a message dated 12/20/2006 6:59:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jsomich at gmail.com writes:
> I don't go in for these little
> table radios with the micro speakers. The Sangean lets me hear
"everything."
> And I don't hear a lot of digital artifacts on anybody's station.
Does this mean that you are, in fact, hearing *some* digital artifacts...
just not "a lot"? Please be a little more specific.
> But why does WTAM drop the analog delay during a football game without
> turning off the HD? This pleases no one! The HD listener in a car is
> annoyed during the blends and the HD listener at home, watching tv is out
of
> sync.
It seems that this out-of-sync problem exists with or without HD, and not
just with football.
> Just came back from Detroit area today. WJR (Disney) STILL sounds horrible
> in analog with the HD on. They have super major problems. The HD actually
> puts a loud whine behind all programming. This is absolutely unlistenable,
> even in the car at 70mph!
They're not the only ones. Any AM receiver with an NRSC-compatible receive
bandwidth is going to present an unlistenable analog signal in the presence of
HD, regardless. That high-pitched noise is because the HD signal, itself, is
within the receivers' bandpass. Thus, the station is generating
self-interference... let alone what it's doing to its neighbors' frequencies.
> Hey, the world is NOT going to rush out and buy an HD radio...especially at
> today's prices. The lack of portables or pocket radios is another negative.
We have strong agreement on all of the above. :)
> But read Chris Scherer's editorial in BE Radio this month about the
adoption
> of HD. I think it makes a lot of sense.
Hmmm... I'll have to look for that.
> HD is relatively cheap to implement
'scuse me, while I get up from the floor... "relatively cheap"?! Perhaps to
large corporations with very deep pockets! When you're talking high 5-digit to
low 6-digit figues *per station* to implement this thing, that is *not*
"relatively cheap" for the significant majority of medium-to-small broadcasters out
there. (Add-in the additional ongoing licensing fees Ibiquity demands...)
Now, by contrast, FMeXtra is "relatively cheap"... a $9,000 box and a few
minutes of Engineering time to set it up... *that* is relatively cheap.
> and the public will gradually be buying
> radios that have HD capability. I don't think it is going away, but it's
not
> going to be a revolution either.
Based on what I'm reading here, and in conversations with "average folks",
these radios are barely moving. It seems that 90% of those sales are to
broadcasters or those with some kind of broadcast-connections.
>
> It has some warts, but it really isn't a bad system. And I was a skeptic.
Some warts?? While I do admit that the FM system has some potential, the AM
system is an absolute nightmare. I started-off being optimistic about this
thing... back when it was all on paper. Once reality set-in, I changed my outlook
from "partly sunny" to "Hurricane warning", where I remain to this day.
That's my 3c worth.
Willie...
(Just an Engineer)
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