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Broadcasters' Mailing List <broadcast at radiolists.net> writes:
>Frank Foti wrote:
>> For a sonic treat, if any of you have DVD-A in your listening
>> environment, get ahold of The Beatles "Love" CD/DVD-A. The audio on the
>> DVD-A is absolutely astounding!!
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>Yes, but how is the audio on the CD side?  I was ready to smash my copy of
>the "Dark Side of the Moon" CD/DVD-A when I discovered that its CD side
>has 4 dB of additional limiting/clipping.  Both the original LP and the
>1994 CD release clearly sound better.

Kevin,

My apologies...I haven't listened to the CD yet, but will do so and have a
look at the levels.
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>And unfortunately, high-resolution multichannel audio discs are dead in
>the consumer marketplace.  Music is no longer foreground entertainment. 
>People want something they can easily "rip" onto their computer and load
>onto their iPod.  With SACD this is impossible, and with DVD-Audio you
>have to be a computer geek and use illegal software to do it.

Well, here are a few recent reviews about it...

>If you haven't invested yet in a home-theater system, here's your
>incentive: a chance to absorb the 20th century's best-known music as you
>never before have heard it. The six-channel separation brings an often
>breathtaking new clarity and precision to the mixes without losing the
>material's fullness. Two "Abbey Road" cuts near the disc's finale --
>"Here Comes the Sun" and "Come Together" -- are among the finest
>offerings yet in the burgeoning realm of surround presentation.
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>The surround approach works particularly well on busy productions such as
>"Strawberry Fields Forever," "Being for the Benefit of Mr. Kite" and "I
>Am the Walrus," which unfold into kinetic carnivals of sound. The high
>fidelity offered by the DVD mix brings nuances to the fore -- a
>you-are-there shimmer to Paul McCartney's guitar strings during
>"Yesterday," Lennon's palm keeping time on the body of his acoustic
>guitar during "Help!" And the answer to one of Beatledom's most hotly
>debated questions at last might be at hand: Who sings the harmony on
>"Come Together"? (Sure sounds like Paul!)

This was from the Philadelphia daily paper, if I remember.

Many of the reviews on Amazon run the same direction.  One writer said it
was the first time he thought to plug a music disk into his DVD player and
home theater set-up.  He was blown away.  A female reviewer said she
"needed a post-coital cigarette" after listening in surround at a friend's
house with a 5.1 system. 

There was a note on one consumer audio site that the disc was motivating
the sale of surround systems.  They said it was the first "surround hit" -
and "just what the industry needs".  

The record shop near my house sold out of all copies of the CD/DVD version
in two days, but still has many of the CD version on the shelf.  Amazon
has the combo DVD-A version ranked the 16th most popular selling music
title.  (The CD is 4th.)  This has to be the highest-ranking surround disk
in history.

There are hints that much of the Beatles catalog will be coming out in
surround next year.
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>Sad to say, Madonna's QSound album was the closest the American population
>ever came to having multichannel audio media at its fingertips, at least
>since the days of Quad.
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Well, that Q-Sound release was not well done. Actually, it has so much
L-R, that it caused multipath havoc on many FM stations. So much so, that
David Reaves (who was chief at Z-100) ended up in an article in Radio &
Records discussing the problems that CD caused. I have it, and the stereo
sound field is "weird." IIRC the Q-Sound folks modified their algorithm
afterwards to reduce the issues on FM.

Additionally, any of the matrixed surround systems can, and will degrade
not only the surround mix, but the conventional stereo sound field as
well. At NAB 2006, we had an interesting demo where we offered A/B
comparisons to the source 5.1 surround, and then the same content as
downmixed-upmixed through the Neural audio system. By example, the neural
system practically eliminated the vocal in the Meatloaf track "You Took
The Words Right Out Of My Mouth." You could say that the Neural system
took "The Words Right Out Of The Song!" :(

Also, we demonstrated what happens to conventional stereo and mono, with a
matrixed system. Using the neural again as an example, their system
*TOTALLY* eliminated the calliope in Dire Straits "Walk Of Life." If I was
still on the radio side of life, and my station had that gear on-air, I
would not want to have to answer to the PD when he comes screaming that
this system was destroying the station's programming. This is what happens
with matrixed surround. The only true way to adopt surround on FM is with
a method offers discrete surround, as well as 100% backwards compatibility
to stereo and mono. There is only *ONE* method that achieves this...MPEG
SURROUND.

-Frank Foti
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