[AF] It's a legacy!

[Gary Glaenzer]

oh, give me a break

the 'crimes' addressed by this new 'law' are already presecutable by laws
already on the books


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Mathis" <thebeaver32 at gmail.com>
To: "The Alternate Frequency" <af at radiolists.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [AF] It's a legacy!


> For everyone's information, the law is intended to expand Federal
> jurisdiction to hate crimes, to include sexual preference, gender and
gender
> identity, and the disabled. It gives the Feds the authority to step in if
> local officials fail to act.
>
> The law specifically states that its purpose is not to prevent people from
> speaking out on their opinion of these classes of people.
>
> What sickens me is the determination of the religious/conservative Right
to
> insist that the law DOES outlaw freedom of speech (which is an outright
lie)
> in the hopes of defeating the law.
>
> The fact that they want to defeat the law tells me that they wish to still
> be able to discriminate against gay people, transgendered people, and the
> disabled. This is why I've refused to any longer let my name be associated
> with any religious organization: the lies, hypocrisy, and
> discrimination these religions manifest are thoroughly un-Christian and
> disgusting.
>
> Discrimination or Protection. Which side of the debate are YOU on? Anyone
> care to confess?
>
> JM
>
>
>
> On 5/5/07, Gary Glaenzer <glaenzer at verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Newman" <shnewman at alaweb.com>
> > To: "The Alternate Frequency" <af at radiolists.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:55 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AF] It's a legacy!
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gary Glaenzer" <glaenzer at verizon.net>
> > > To: "The Alternate Frequency" <af at radiolists.net>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 10:07 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [AF] It's a legacy!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > I thought the original premise was 'murder'
> > > >
> > > > silly me, I forgot...........those with the 'hate-crime' agenda are
> > > > allowed
> > > > to change the subject in mid-discussion
> > >
> > > Gary....many eventually carry this to its ultimate finale. Murder born
> > out
> > > of hate. It is the root with which we must deal.
> > > I didn't change the subject. I respected your intelligence to
understand
> > > what the real problem is all about.
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
> > Steve;
> >
> > the original post said "Making the killing of gays a crime."
> >
> > your post said "One takes gasoline, pours it on the lawn spelling out
the
> > word "fag" or
> > "queer", and sets it on fire; This is domestic terrorism and currently
> > only
> > a misdemeanor. This is why almost every law enforcement agency is in
favor
> > of passing this hate crimes bill."
> >
> > I say that you changed the subject, your own words show it.
> >
> > Finally, there are already laws against 'murder' on the books; the last
> > time
> > I checked, it pretty much a crime in all 50 states
> >
> > Why, then, do we need another law ?  Murder is murder, no matter what
the
> > motivation.
> >
> >
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