WFYL uses a 94 foot Valcom on 1180 with 1 KW. It gets out great. Of course it's on a golf course with a full buried radial system.... -D From: "Warren Mead" <am1611 at westnet.com.au> We use a 94 foot Valcom, with top hat ...works very well on 1611. Bends with the breeze with freaks the public out for a while. Warren