Bob observed: >One of a very few things we can agree on, Glen....Bob ----------- Glad we can finally agree on SOMETHING! <g> Several years ago a DXer in Denver sent me his HQ-180A for checkup and alignment, and I can say that in a side-to-side comparison they are VERY close. Both whip the socks off my R-388. Glen Kippel KHCS Palm Desert, CA